Jul 18, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49 | #1 |
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: London
Guild: Leet Soldiers
Profession: W/N
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Dervish or Paragon?
Hi.
I am not new to this game, but I got bored with my Characters and deleted them (I was tired and didnt pay full attention at the time), I am now going to start playing again and I'm wondering what would be better for PVE or PVP (I mainly play PVE though). Paragon seem quite appealing, but is it a support class? If so, I wont make one. Please help. |
Jul 18, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30 | #2 |
Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest
Profession: W/
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Well, any class can do well on its own. But a paragon does so well as party multiplier that it's a waste not to do so...
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Jul 18, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03 | #3 |
Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Paragon really is a support class, and according to the a reccent poll in riverside, is the most unpopular class to play in all of GW.
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Jul 18, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18 | #4 |
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: London
Guild: Leet Soldiers
Profession: W/N
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do you mean Unpopular because they are useless or just theres not enough people playing as one?
what class would have an Easier time finding a party, i mean, would People acutally need me in the party if I was a Paragon? |
Jul 18, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05 | #5 | |
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Jul 18, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29 | #6 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
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There are three mele classes (warrior, assasin, dervish) and probably 90% of people who start this game made one of them, myself included. Since you really don't want more than two mele in your group I think it would be easier to find groups as a paragon. But then again they are more of a support class than direct range damage like rangers are, and you implied you didn't want to play a support class.
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Jul 19, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10 | #7 |
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: N/
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Dervish is a weird melee hybrid class that, for general PVE, doesn't -really- synergise that well with anything else; especially when you're just starting a new one and aren't familiar with how it all works out. It's an interesting class, and it's very effective in PVE (where area attacks are king; scythe area + burst auras are great) but mine's collecting dust at the moment. Arguably some of the most-boring armor. Get pretty badass avatar transformations that let them change appearance to and take on certain aspects of each of the five gods.
Paragon is a support class, no doubt of that, but they're also very strong, with the equivalent of warrior armor (and a great insignia to boost it up even higher). My only problem with them is the excessively-fancy armor and how little of it can be dyed; don't pick one if you don't like wearing white. |
Jul 19, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50 | #8 |
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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paragons are boring and not so useful. dervishes are dps/survival machines and very fun to play.
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Jul 19, 2007, 11:23 AM // 11:23 | #9 |
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: London
Guild: Leet Soldiers
Profession: W/N
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AHHH I still can't decide lol.
I should just go with what class looks cooler lol. Which one has an easier time staying alive? |
Jul 19, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30 | #10 | |
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...
Guild: Dark Alley [dR]
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Jul 19, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33 | #11 |
Walking Wiki
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Isle of Medication
Guild: Visitors from Aranna [VFA]
Profession: Me/E
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Paragons have an eaiser time staying alive. Armor that's almost as good as a warrior's (max armor for a paragon is 80, but doesn't have the same boost against physical that the warrior has), the ability to use shields, and attacking at range. Not to mention a wide range of buffs that can't be stripped by the enemy.
The paragon isn't just support either. True, their vocal abilities help buff up your party quite a lot, but they're also capable of putting out a very impressive DPS with their spears. The profession is very well balanced between attack and defence. |
Jul 19, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34 | #12 |
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: London
Guild: Leet Soldiers
Profession: W/N
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Thats it then, I'll go Paragon.
Thanks for the Help! |
Jul 19, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44 | #13 |
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: United Kingdom!
Guild: Acolytes Of Anguish [aOa]
Profession: W/
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I know youve already chosen but to answer your earlier question imo getting into a party wold be much easier with a derv rather then a para this is just what i find though.
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Jul 19, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56 | #14 |
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: London
Guild: Leet Soldiers
Profession: W/N
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Oh, I see, well, do people usually say "no your a Paragon, you can't join us"?
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Jul 19, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18 | #15 |
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...
Guild: Dark Alley [dR]
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No, they usually say "GLF ele, tank and 2 monks..." Then you invite as a paragon and they hit decline invitation and u rage in the district as to why no one wants to take you and you resort to using heroes and beating it faster than the sub-par pug did anyway...
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Jul 19, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54 | #16 |
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: N/
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Honestly, anymore I see "invite self" way way way more than specific queries (aside from monks, but people are generally just as happy with a hero as a real person). And a halfway decent guild will alleviate that more or less completely.
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Jul 19, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01 | #17 |
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I'd never really fancied Paragon much, but having now taken all classes as far as Vabbi (for treasures) - I do have to say that I was surprised by how easy it seemed with my Paragon. It feels like a faster paced ranger, with some nice skills to boost team damage, in addition to applying conditions. I didn't fall in love with the class, but I have started using motivation henchies more.
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Jul 19, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09 | #18 |
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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i cant stand being grouped with paragons. they really dont add anything to the group.
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Jul 19, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11 | #19 |
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Knights of the Oasis
Profession: E/N
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Para lover here ;-)
In reply to the OP - nothing is worse in this game than playing with PUGs, mate. Your Para has Warrior-class armor, warrior class damage from a distance, superb party mainentance skills, and if you're in a group, screw pugs. If you aren't in a Guild, well-built Paras have little trouble beating all three chapters with heroes and henchies. Unpopular does not mean unpowerful ;-) Besides - 9 out of every 10 toons in Kamadan is a Derv nowadays. Why not be a little different? Truly, Dervishes have some outrageous strengths, but in the long run Paras are a much more "survivable" class. Glad you went that route ;-) |
Jul 19, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21 | #20 |
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Ka-Tet Of Gilead
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I made3 a Dervish and a Para and personally I don't like the dervish to me they are liek the new assassin mainly for PvP and no one really cares to have them in a group when they can have a Warrior as a tank or a ele Paragons aere a more effective class in PvE or PvP because liek the rit ualist they help enchance the team by dmg or defense wise when i made my para I really liked him becuase it was like haveing a Rit/ranger/warrior all in one as for dervish I only felt like I got brute ower (like the assassin) and warrior and was rejected from many groups becuase they wanted a arrior or ele over a dervish So my pick for anyone is Para hands down
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